Polish Army

As I’ve done for the Lithuanians here is the full OOB for my Alt-History Poles. It is taken from the IISS’ 1994 Military Balance, the Army is as is but I’ve had to change the Air Force OOB as at this time it was still very ‘Warsaw Pacty’ with a large number of aircraft organised into regiments. To get the new one I combined the Polish Air Force of today with the Nigerian Air Force of 1994 (as Nigeria was the basis of the equipment mix for the Poles). To change equipment from the Soviet kit to Western kit I just looked up the Soviet type on Wikipedia, looked at the ‘See also’ section and picked a type from there, all very clever and scientific! The Border guard OOB came from the pre-WW2 force.

 

Army

  •    4 Corp Hqs 
  •    10 Mech Divs (1 Reserve)
  •    1 Armd Cav Div
  •    1 Marine Bgde
  •    1 Armd Bgde
  •    1 Mech Regt (Pres. Guard)
  •    1 Mntn Bgde
  •    1 Air Asslt Bgde
  •    1 Inf Btln (SF)
  •    4 SSM Rgts    (10 launchers each)
  •    4 Attack Heli Btlns (5 Pzl.w4 Mangusta, 2 Pzl.2)
  •    4 Tactical Heli Sqdns (7 Pzl.w3 Sokol, 2 Pzl.2)
  •    1 ADA Bgd
  •    10 SAM Rgts

 

Border Guard

  •    6 Bgdes (6 Inf Btlns, 3 Cav Coys, Art Batt, Eng Coy)
  •    1 Mobile Grp (2 Inf Btlns, 3 Cav Coys, 2 Art batts)

 

Air Force  (aircraft numbers in game terms)

  •      2 GA Sqdns               @         9 Jaguar
  •      2 Ftr Sqdns                @         6 Mirage III
  •      5 FGA Sqdns             @         8 F-16
  •      1 Recon Sqdn            @         6 Mirage III
  •      1 LtGA Sqdn             @         6 Alpha Jet
  •      2 Trg/LGA Sqdns    @         6 L-39
  •      1 Utility Sqdn           @         6 A-109
  •      2 Lift Sqdns               @         8 Super Puma
  •      2 Lift Sqdns               @         6 Super Frelon
  •      2 Lt Trans Sqdns       @        10 Pzl M-28
  •      1 Trans Sqdn             @         9 G.222 Transport
  •      1 Trans Sqdn             @         4 C-130 Hercules Transport
  •      14 SAM base @ 4 Roland-1

 

I will post TO&E’s of the rest of the Army formations in another post but you can find the one for the Mechanised Divisions here: https://tracksandthreads.wordpress.com/2015/09/25/polish-mechanised-division/

 

Lithuanian Army

This is the second of my Modern Alt- History forces. I have decided that I would use the TO&E’s of the smaller Gulf States for the Baltic States as they seemed a good fit, being small divisional sized units and with a nice mix of kit that could feasibly be used by the Baltics. The actual size of each army has been altered slightly as I have taken the pre-WW2 forces OOB as a guide, turning infantry regiments into battalions for example and hence some slight changes might be made. As always I’ll be using Mark Bevis’ great lists available from the Wargames Vault for the lower level organisation. The air forces are taken from the Gulf State that is used as the ‘inspiration’. I chose Oman for Lithuania solely by dint that it had the largest population of the three (the others being Bahrain and Qatar).

 

Lithuanian Armed Forces

Ground

  • 1 Armd Bgde
  • 3 Motor Bgds
  • 1 Abne btln
  • 21 National Guard Battalions
  • 1 Engineer Btln
  • 2 Artillery Btlns
  • 1 Air Defence Regiment

Army Aviation (aircraft listed in game terms 1 = 2 actual aircraft)

  • 2 Lift sqdns @ 7 AB-205/212/214
  • 1 Scout Flt @ 1 AB-206

Air Force

  •  2 GA Sqdns   @ 7 Jaguar, 1 Recon Jaguar
  •  1 FGA Sqdn @ 4 Hunter
  •  1 LtGA Sqdn @ 4 Hawk
  •  1 Trg/LtGA Sqdn @ 6 L-39 Albatros
  • 1 Transport Sqdn @ 4 Skyvan 3M & 1 C-130H

 

TO&E’s (FFT3 so one base = platoon)

Armoured Bgde                                                         

  •  1 Cmnd Sultan/Land Rover
  •   1 VAb 6×6 VDA sp tw20mm adg

Cavalry Sqdn

  • 2 VBC-90
  • 2 Recce Inf (3 ar, lmg, law-80)
  • 2 VAB-VCI 6×6
  • 1 VAB 6×6/Milan-1

SP Art Btln

  • 1 Landrover FOO
  • 2 m109a2 sp155mm

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Armoured Btln

  • 1 Cmnd Sultan
  • 2 Tank Coys
    • 4 Chieftain mk 15
  • 1 Inf Coy
    • 1 weapons (2 60mmM, 2 MMG)
    • 3 Inf (3 ar, Lmg, 40mm gl, law-80)
    • 1 Stormer-12.7 apc
    • 3 Stormer-20 AIFV

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Mech Inf Btln

  • HQ Coy
    • 1 Cmnd VAB
    • 1 Blowpipe team
    • 1 81mmM
    • 1 Combat Eng (3 ar, lmg, law-80)
    • 2 1ton LR
    • 1 Recce LR/mg
    • 1 LR/ITOW
    • 2 VAB/Milan-1
  • 3 Inf Coys
    • 1 Weapons (2 mmg, 2 60mmM)
    • 3 Inf (3 at, Lmg, 40mm gl, law-80)
    • 4 VAB

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Not a terrifying force by any means but the Chieftains, picked up from the Brits ‘cheap’ thanks to them introducing the Challenger, are not to be sniffed at. As the Army is a purely defensive force anyway it suffices as a mobile reserve unit. It could also have the Scorpion equipped Armoured Cavalry battalion attached but that is usually split between the 3 Infantry Brigades.

 

3 x Infantry Brigades                                                  

  • 1 1 ton LR/Landrover
  • 1 tw 20mm adg
  • 1 1ton LR

Armoured Cavalry Sqdn

  • 3 Scorpion

Recce Coy

  • 4 Recce inf (3 ar, law-80, lmg)
  • 4 LR/MG

Art Btln

  • FOO Landrover
  • 3 105mm Lt Guns
  • 3 1 ton LR

Mortar Btln

  • FOO Landrover
  • 3 120mmM
  • 3 1ton LR

3 x Infantry Btlns                    

  • HQ Coy
    • 1 Cmnd 1ton LR
    • 1 Blowpipe team
    • 1 81mmM
    • 1 Combat Eng (3 ar, lmg, law-80)
    • 2 Milan-1
    • 4 1ton LR
    • 1 Recce LR/mg
    • 1 LR/ITOW
  • 3 coys
    • 1 Weapons (2 mmg, 2 60mmM)
    • 3 Inf (3 ar. Lmg, 40mm gl, law-80)
    • 4 1 ton LR                            

The Infantry Brigades are purely defensive formations and are augmented by the following National Guard Battalions which may be attached as and when needed or left to defend their mobilization locations.

21 x NG Btlns                            

  • HQ Coy
    • Cmnd Iltis Jeep
    • 2 Blowpipe teams
    • 1 81mmM
    • 2 MMG
    • 1 Eng (3 ar, lmg)
    • 4 Trucks
    • 1 Scouts (4 ar/smg)
    • 1 Landrover LWB
  • 4 Coys
    • 3 NG (4 ar, 3 lmg, 40mm gl, c gustav)

And under Army HQ command there are the following units:

Abne Btln                                                                  

  • HQ Coy
    • 1 cmnd (4 ar/smg, law-80)
    • 1 81mmM
    • 1 LR
    • 2 recce landrover/hmg
  • 3 coys
    • 1 para weapoms (3 60mmM, 3 Carl Gustav)
    • 3 para (4 ar, lmg, 40mm gl, law-80, 2 snipers)

If deployed on land will use Trucks as transport

Eng Btln                                                                    

  • HQ Coy
    • 1 cmnd LR/mg
    • 1 Carl Gustav team
    • 1 recce LR/mg
    • 1 CEV
    • 1 Chieftan AVLB
  • 3 coys
    • 3 eng (4 ar, 3 lmg)
    • 3 1ton LR

Army Art Btln

  • FOO LandRover
  • 2 5.5’ Gun
  • 2 Trucks

Army Art Btln

  • FOO LandRover
  • 2 155mm fh-70
  • 2 Trucks                   

Army AD Regt

  • 3 40mm adg
  • 7 Rapier
  • 10 Trucks

 

I’ll be posting some photos as soon as the bases are finished (next day or so for the Armoured Brigade).

Polish Mechanised Division

OK here is the first Orbat for my Alt-History Modern madness which I have just edited as the TO&E has changed somewhat since inception and the new version of the list has just been released! For the full OOB of the Polish Armed Forces look here: https://tracksandthreads.wordpress.com/2017/05/03/polish-army/

As I’ve mentioned before, I am trying to base the ‘imagined’ forces in this project on real life TO&E’s, with a few tweaks here and there. For the Poles I sort of extrapolated their pre-WW2 units, with a French influence for their organisation and basing their equipment on Vickers products with some French kit thrown in for good measure – Nigeria had just that so that’s where the basis for the equipment mix came from. This also gave Saurer APC’s from Austria and Piranha APC’s from Switzerland, so I had to go for it – this meant I could use Canadian Grizzly/Cougars which are, quite frankly, well cool!

As for organisation I very nearly went the whole Nigerian hog as they’ve got quite a distinct one, but in the end I’ve based it on the Polish Cold War Naval Landing Division, which does give a slightly French feel to the unit as it consists of Regiments that are smaller than Soviet ones but bigger than ‘regular’ battalions.

There are 10 Mechanised Divisions in the Polish Army, 1 being a reserve unit, so form the majority of the Army’s strength.

Mechanised Division

HQ Coy

  • 1 Cmnd OT-64/Sigs LandRover
  • 1 ‘Grom’ SP quad 25mm adg/Grom sam

This is the Chinese type-95, it is the closest thing to a SIDAM turreted vehicle that there is.

Art Regt

  • 1 foo Ferret
  • 3 Dana sp155mm
  • 1 APR-41 mrls

Eng Btln

  • 1 cmnd Land Rover
  • 3 Coys
    • 2 Eng (3 ar, rg)
    • 1 Combat eng (3 ar, rg, lmg, Carl Gustav maw, 1 flame)
    •  3 OT-64
  • 1 Cy
    • 2 Vickers AVLB
    • 2 Vickers AVRE

Divisional Amd Cav Regt

  • 1 Cmnd Land Rover
  • 1 Ferret/Swingfire
  • 2 Recon Coys
    • 3 recon Fox amd cars
  • Inf Coy
    • 2 Inf (3 ar, rg, lmg, RPG-75 law, Carl Gustav maw)
    • 1 Inf/Bill (3 ar, rg, lmg, RPG-75 law, Bill atgm)
    • 3 Panhard m3 apc
  • 3 Amd Coys
    • 2 AML-90
    • 1 AML-60

This is the Divisional recce unit. Usually it will detach one company to each of the Divisions regiments to act as their recce unit – the Fox’s to the Infantry Regts and 1 Armd Coy to the Armoured Regt.

2 Mechanised Infantry Regts from:

12 x Tracked Regts

  • HQ Coy
    • 1 Cmnd OT-64/LandRover
    • 1 recce Ferret
    • 1 120mmM
    • 1 tw20mm adg
    • 2 OT-64 (tows for the heavy weapons)
    • 2 Cmnd 4k-4fu
    • 2 Blowpipe Manpad teams
    • 2 Striker sp ATGM
    • 2 4k-7f-81 sp81mmM
  • 4 Coys
    • 2 Inf (3 ar, rg, lmg, RPG-75 law, Carl Gustav maw)
    • 1 Inf/Bantam (3 ar, rg, lmg, RPG-75 law, Bantam atgm)
    • 3 4k-7f apc
  • 1 Coy
    • 3 PT-65 (Vickers mk.1)
  • 1 Coy
    • 3 Scorpion-90

OR

6 x Wheeled Regts

  • HQ Coy
    • 1 Cmnd OT-64/LandRover
    • 1 recce VBL/hmg
    • 1 120mmM
    • 1 tw20mm adg
    • 2 OT-64 (tows for the heavy weapons)
    • 2 Cmnd Piranha (will come up with suitable Polish name soon)
    • 2 Blowpipe Manpad teams
    • 2 VBL/Bill atgm
    • 2 81mmM
    • 2 Piranha APC (tow for the 81mmM – wish there was an SP version available!)
  • 4 Coys
    • 2 Inf (3 ar, rg, lmg, RPG-75 law, Carl Gustav maw)
    • 1 Inf/Bantam (3 ar, rg, lmg, RPG-75 law, Bantam atgm)
    • 3 Piranha apc
  • 1 Coy
    • 3 PT-65 (Vickers mk.1)
  • 1 Coy
    • 3 ERC-90

1 xArmoured Regt               (6 Mk3m, 3 Mk3)

  • HQ Coy
    • 1 Cmnd OT-64/LandRover
    • 2 Cmnd 4k-7fu
    • 1 Vickers ARV
    • 1 Blowpipe manpad team
    • 1 Striker
    • 1 4k-7f-GrW81 sp81mmM
  • 2 Coys
    • 2 Inf (3 ar, rg, lmg, RPG-75 law, Carl Gustav maw)
    • 1 Inf/Bantam (3 ar, rg, lmg, RPG-75 law, Bantam atgm)
    • 3 4k-7f-20 aifv
  • 4 Coys
    • 3 PT-77m or PT-77 (Vickers mk.3)

The OT-64 command stand in the mech and armd Regts are the Regimental HQ’s. The 2 APC command stands are tactical stands to allow for 2 task forces to be formed for specific situations – I felt that 6 companies was a tad too much for one HQ to handle.

 

Divisional Cavalry Regt Armoured Car-tastic!
Divisional Cavalry Regt
Armoured Car-tastic!
Fox's on the right, AML-90 and AML-60's to the left.
Fox’s on the right, AML-90 and AML-60’s to the left.
Cavalry Regt infantry element. Company in Panhard M3 with one platoon carrying Milan.
Cavalry Regt infantry element. Company in Panhard M3 with one platoon carrying Milan.
Wheeled Mechanised Regt. (I'm actually short a whole Infantry Company - waiting for the APC's now!)
Wheeled Mechanised Regt.
(I’m actually short a whole Infantry Company – waiting for the APC’s now!)
Infantry element with 81mm Mortar platoon to the right.
Infantry element with 81mm Mortar platoon to the right.
Close up of the Grizzly APC - one of my favourites, cool bit of kit!
Close up of the Grizzly APC – one of my favourites, cool bit of kit!
Ferret with Swingfire - AT support for the Regt.  Mortar Platoon vehicle behind it.
Ferret with Swingfire – AT support for the Regt.
Mortar Platoon vehicle behind it.
PT-77 Tank Company. (Polish built Vickers Mk.3)
PT-77 Tank Company.
(Polish built Vickers Mk.3)